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Thread: Brazing Mild Steel
03/11/2018 22:29:10

Thank you, Meunier and Michael!

I've worked out why I couldn't see what you were seeing, Michael; I was viewing the page on my desktop, which has a browser extension that blocks ads, trackers etc. I had to disable the browser extension in order to be able to see the actual questions and answers lurking beneath the tab of that name.

02/11/2018 17:03:28

Posted by Michael Gilligan on 02/11/2018 16:15:54:

Bill,

Have a look at section 2.2 of the Safety Data Sheet

It wasn't difficult to find ... under 'Questions & Answers' on the link that you provided .

MichaelG.

Edited By Michael Gilligan on 02/11/2018 16:23:23

Sorry, Michael, I've searched the questions and answers section of that link high and low and I can see no safety data sheet.

02/11/2018 15:42:14
Posted by Tim Stevens on 02/11/2018 12:08:48:

And PS - silversmiths always relied on borax until fancy modern fluxes were made available. I think this was in the early part of last century - but for may, borax is still generally used, for silver and gold solders.

Regards, Tim

That's right, Tim. I mentioned my use of borax in jewellery making earlier.

The "fancy" flux I sometimes use instead (on heating it bubbles up less than borax) is auroflux. It works well on gold and silver. I'd like to know what's in it.

One other thing jewellers often use is a boric acid slurry brushed on before soldering to reduce the dreaded fire-scale you can easily get when soldering sterling silver, and even with some gold alloys. Some people say the boric acid improves solder flow. I use it a lot but I'm not sure whether it does help, nor whether its help (in addition to the flux) is really needed if your soldering discipline is good.

31/10/2018 16:50:17

Many thanks, Ian T and Keith, for your helpful answers.

Bill.

31/10/2018 02:16:33

Ian T, just out of interest can you tell us specifically what flux you used for brazing those mild steel parts? You say you used SIF flux but there seem to be several varieties of SIF flux such as "bronze", "stainless", "aluminium", "cast iron". Which variety will work best with mild steel using silver solder, e.g. some Silverflo 55?

Also, will straight borax (I have a cone of it at home that I use for soldering silver and gold parts when jewellery making) be just as good a flux for mild steel when using a silver solder as opposed to brass wire?

Thanks!

Thread: Rocol RTD shelf life
30/09/2018 00:35:28

 

Posted by JohnF on 29/09/2018 20:01:12:

Bill, I have a tin bought xxx? years ago never even new it had a sell by date ? Its absolutely fine and I have never noticed any lack of performance. I would not worry about the date at all.

 

John

Thanks, John. That's good to know.

Posted by John Rudd on 29/09/2018 20:38:05

Didn't you query it with the seller?

I haven't yet, John. I only received it yesterday, and I was waiting for replies from ME forum members on the matter before deciding whether to contact the seller. Would you, under the circumstances?

Posted by Bill Phinn on 29/09/2018 19:49:59:

was a little surprised to find that it's "shelf-life expiry" date was..."

 

He meant "its".

Thanks to everyone for the replies.

Edited By Bill Phinn on 30/09/2018 00:37:04

29/09/2018 19:49:59

I've just bought a 350ml bottle of Rocol RTD Cleancut liquid on ebay. It was discounted from the usual price. On arrival I was a little surprised to find that it's "shelf-life expiry" date was 5 months ago. No mention was made in the listing that the product was past its expiry date.

Is the fact that it's 5 months past its expiry date critical? I suspect not, but is there a time when it does become critical?

Just out of interest, can anyone tell me what sort of consistency, colour, and smell (e.g. detergenty/oily/solventy) a fresh bottle should have.

Many thanks for any help.

Thread: M5 x 0.5 threaded bar supplier
18/09/2018 23:40:26

Yes, Bill, it was sloppy of me not to read things more carefully.

How about this? (It doesn't give the pitch though.)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3D-Printer-5mm-Threaded-Steel-Rod-Cut-to-Custom-Lengths-M5-Bar-Shaft/191065265336?hash=item2c7c6094b8%3Am%3Am4_BexbsCwa281GHDcTGaAQ&var=490261409733

18/09/2018 23:14:52

I get threaded bar here:

https://www.toolstation.com/shop/Screws+%26+Fixings/d90/Stainless+Range/sd1030/Stainless+Steel+Threaded+Bar/p61139

Thread: Using wood on a metal lathe
15/09/2018 13:18:37
Posted by Derek Lane 2 on 15/09/2018 12:43:12:

This is something I know a little about you can see some of my work HERE

From a woodworker who also wants to get into model engineering

You're a real artist, Derek. I particularly like the lidded pot with the Chinese for "lucky" scribed on it. Your Chinese calligraphy is a whole lot better than mine.

Thread: Junior Hacksaw Blades
15/09/2018 13:02:00
Posted by Hopper on 15/09/2018 02:45:12:
Posted by George Clarihew on 14/09/2018 22:57:08:

Ah, but which direction do the above users fit the blade, cut on the push stroke or cut on the pull stroke.

I find that blades last much longer cutting on the pull stroke, at least they do in the pupils hands at work.

Standard procedure in some European countries. I always wondered why the Swiss and Italian guys I worked with did that. All they could tell me was "because it is the correct way". Maybe you have discovered the secret. Makes sense when you think about it.

In the case of jewellers' saws there's a very straightforward utilitarian reason why the blades are orientated with the teeth pointing towards the handle: the default position for the saw in use is vertical, with the handle at the bottom. Among other things, this allows gravity to assist the cut. The workpiece is usually held flat on the wooden benchpeg and shifted about as cutting proceeds.

Thread: Capacities of Eclipse T-handle tap wrenches
11/09/2018 01:13:43

Thanks for this further information, George.

Thread: Is there something wrong with this vice?
11/09/2018 00:57:23

I can't quite make out from the second photo what is between the square nut and the vice's underside, but it looks suspiciously like a spacer rather than just a portion of the threaded fastener whose conical tip can seen protruding from the square nut.

Assuming I've understood things correctly (and I know nothing about these vices or Myford milling slides), if this spacer is deeper than the distance between the two surfaces on the milling slide that the vice needs to clamp on to, then you will never get the vice to tighten down without shortening these spacers.

I'm sure someone will be able to give you a more authoritative answer soon.

Thread: Cost of mini lathes
09/09/2018 20:09:49
Posted by Bill Phinn on 09/09/2018 20:07:19:
Posted by Guy Robinson on 09/09/2018 13:52:05:
Is there a second hand market or not?

It's hard to tell what your primary motivation for asking this is: saving money over a new one or getting a decent price when/if you sell it on.

Anyway, minilathes are fairly freely available secondhand; just bear in mind that you're unlikely to get any kind of warranty that comes close to the warranty on a new machine in terms of the protection it offers you. Of course, if you're adept at fault diagnosis and the repair of lathes, then it's not such a big problem, but in all likelihood if you were adept you'd have a lathe already or at least some experience with one and not be too badly placed to sort out any snags.

On a slightly off-topic note, this is one of the major drawbacks that proponents of buying older British-made lathes rather than new import lathes tend to forget: that whereas they themselves have the wherewithal and the equipment (or know someone who does) to sort out most faults they might encounter with a secondhand lathe, many people looking for a lathe are not so fortunately placed, though they might well be when they come to buy their second lathe, if they ever do.

 

Edited By Bill Phinn on 09/09/2018 20:10:17

Thread: Capacities of Eclipse T-handle tap wrenches
07/09/2018 21:37:49

Thanks for the information, Emgee.

06/09/2018 16:54:06

Many thanks to everyone for your replies.

Robbo's testimony tells me that probably the only way I'm going to get to the bottom of the vagaries of Eclipse's sizing across the ages is to acquire all of their tap wrenches from all periods. On a positive note, it looks like my 143 on its own will accommodate most of the sizes I'm going to use regularly, though I'll probably want to acquire the 141 and 142 as well, just because they're out there. I do have several of their bar-type tap wrenches.

On the subject of tap wrenches generally, it strikes me that one reason why very small tap wrenches are commonly available when their medium or even large cousins will accommodate very small taps anyway is probably that smaller wrenches allow for more sensitive feedback as to what is going on at the end of the tap when you're winding it in, and so reduce the chance of breakages. Personally, if there is room for it I always try to use a fairly long-handled (and therefore big) wrench so that the handle can act as a more effective guide to keeping the tap straight in the hole.

Edited By Bill Phinn on 06/09/2018 16:55:01

Edited By Bill Phinn on 06/09/2018 16:55:20

05/09/2018 15:51:56

Responding to my own query here, and perhaps rendering some of it redundant, I see that there is a step lower down the inside of the chuck, and if you use this you can accommodate taps as small as M3.

 

I'm unsure though whether this is in fact intended as a secure fixing point for smaller taps, and still confused about the stated sizings on the S&J website.

Edited By Bill Phinn on 05/09/2018 15:52:46

05/09/2018 15:29:18

I recently acquired a secondhand Eclipse 143 tap wrench (the T-handle chuck-type). Before I got it I found, from looking at Spear and Jackson's specs on their Eclipse T-handle wrenches, that the capacity of the current 143 is between 3 and 8mm AF.

 

 

I was a little surprised then to find that the capacity of my secondhand one is actually 6-10mm AF approx. This means the smallest tap I can use out of the selection I own is an M8 tap (a Presto), or even M10 if it's an Aldi or Silverline one. If the capacity had been the same as given on the S&J website it looks like I'd have been able to use much smaller taps (down to M4) and lost a bit of capacity at the higher end, which would have suited me better.

 

 

Can anyone familiar with Eclipse T-handle wrenches, both old and new, confirm:

 

 

a). whether the capacities given on the S&J website for the current wrenches are correct;

b). whether the capacity of older spec Eclipse T-handle wrenches is bigger than their newer counterparts, and therefore that the capacity of my 143 is par for the course, given its age;

c). what I can expect the capacities of the two smaller Eclipse T-handle wrenches (141,142) to be if I buy obviously old (say 20th century at the latest) secondhand examples?

 

 

Many thanks for any help.

Edited By Bill Phinn on 05/09/2018 15:29:53

Thread: Tungsten steel taps and dies.
02/09/2018 23:04:10

Toolstation's 40 piece Silverline tap and die set, currently priced at £34.84, is described as "made from tungsten steel". I bought a set chiefly because it contains taps and dies of two different pitches for each size, and it struck me the set might be useful for that reason.

I've also got the Aldi set, which was £14 when I bought it a few years ago. I think that one is just carbon steel. The first holes I ever tapped were with the Aldi set - 8 blind M3 holes in mild steel about 10mm deep. Fortunately I tapped all the holes successfully even though the only tap supplied was a taper tap.

I think the taps and dies in both sets are serviceable but I don't think the same can be said for the supplied tap and die wrenches, which seem nearer in consistency to cheese than metal. Fortunately there are plenty of better wrenches to be had for not much second hand.

Thread: Drill Press Buying Advice
29/08/2018 03:00:33
Posted by Mark Rand on 29/08/2018 01:21:22:

I'm afraid that the Axminster drill will still suffer table deflection with large pieces or heavy pressure (as will the machinemart one if you push it...) I've got its floor standing ancestor (80mm column), that I inherited from dad and it's not at all happy with more than 30kg on the table and a 12mm drill. Drilling the 5mm oil holes in the sides of the milling machine saddle (60kg) needed the crane to keep things square...

I have considered making an additional collar around the column about 150mm down and attaching it to both the existing one and the table to form a triangular brace. It'd need a minor redesign of the table pivoting arrangements , but it would transfer most of the bending stress onto the column, which is far stiffer than the table mount (at least on the floor standing version).

Edited By Mark Rand on 29/08/2018 01:30:04

I don't know how robust or otherwise your floorstanding drill is compared with the two under discussion here, but are there any bench-top drills of the same size and weight as the Axminster or Machine Mart examples we're discussing on whose tables you could put 60kg without experiencing any detectable deflection? Would it ever be advisable or necessary to put a 60kg workpiece on a bench-top drill of this size without extra support for the table and/or the workpiece? A 60kg workpiece weighs half as much again as the Machine Mart drill.

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