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Thread: New old 1950's Myford 7 Lathe still in the crate
11/09/2018 10:31:04
Posted by Darren Conway on 10/09/2018 21:29:32:

The lathe didn't get a bid at the reserve price so clearly it is priced above market value. It is only worth what someone will pay for it.

Most definitely depends on what someone is willing to spend as mentioned.

I've however seen far worse for not much cheaper than $4000 here, i.e. people just expect to get ridiculous prices for even a worn Myford. Based on that I'd spend extra money to have the one in the crate, pending viewing preferably, but perhaps that's not normal.

I too have looked at purchasing out of the UK but for the same reasons mentioned I didn't. It also depends where you buy one from, some dealers I spoke to at the time were already over $3000 equivalent without shipping considered. The 2350GBP ML7 from Myford Lathes above in a previous link is an example albeit with a clutch and gearbox.

Edited By mrbuilder on 11/09/2018 10:33:55

11/09/2018 10:28:54
Posted by Hopper on 11/09/2018 08:49:48:

BTW, same seller who just sold that Myford small vice on eBay Oz for $96 just sold the matching vertical slide for $125, which seems more reasonable, considering their comparative costs new etc.

Edited By Hopper on 11/09/2018 08:50:17

Well that's the nature of auctions, is it not?! wink

10/09/2018 14:49:34
Posted by Hopper on 09/09/2018 13:57:58:

For those wondering about the price of $4000 (2,000 Quids) for a brand new Myford, take a look at the crazy prices Myford stuff is bringing on eBay Australia. This used Myford small vice to fit on a vertical slide just sold for $96 (52 Quids) plus postage. **LINK**

Crazy stuff. They only cost about 69 Quid new, plus an extra 7 quid postage.

My cunning plan to put in a last minute snipe of $25 after it had sat there at $15 for days fell rather flat! Pity. It would have been a nice little extra vice for fine work on my drill press at that price.

For me $4000 wouldn't be out of the question for a brand new Myford. It does look like the lathe comes with a few goodies in the box too. Having rebuilt an ML7, I'd consider that lathe if I lived in NZ. As much as I enjoyed the rebuild, the time and money invested were rather ridiculous looking back on it. Plus purchasing extras.
 
If it's 1950s, unless it's the way photo has been taken, it looks like a MK2 tailstock so perhaps late 1950s?
 
Speaking of prices, not being from the UK I often wonder how well this place does, the prices seem much higher than anywhere else over there that I've seen... Would compare to the $4000. **LINK**
 
Haha... Not trying to sell it for him, just my own experience and perspective on things.
 
For the most part, Myford prices are unquestionably inflated on this side of the world, Australia/NZ etc. and now having to deal with GST on all overseas purchases in Australia adds to it again.
 
If you are lucky, in recent years I've seen two suberb S7s one sold for 1500AUD and the other for 2500AUD, both with loads of extras. But you have to buy them within seconds! Obviously I was not quick enough, and these are rare cases.
 
Being a fellow on your side of the world, I don't know that the vice is necessarily inflated by comparison to UK prices. The cost of postage plus GST to this side of the world would cost almost be half as much again.
 
And lets not open the can of worms about new Myford stuff... (Sorry) but having bought many dud parts during my rebuild, for example I would certainly trust that lathe in the crate more than any new or refurbished "Myford" from the current factory for sure.

Edited By mrbuilder on 10/09/2018 14:57:11

Thread: Myford vertical slide copies
28/01/2018 06:11:33
Posted by Hopper on 28/01/2018 06:05:00:

I bought a secondhand gen-you-ine Myford double swivel slide on Ebay UK for about 70 quid. Arrived in the original box, in as-new condition.

I'm envious! That's a steal!

28/01/2018 03:00:20
Thanks guys. Exactly the information I was after. Probably a bit less fettling required on the copies and less $$ to get one vs some of second hand genuine ones I've seen, so I'm leaning toward that.
27/01/2018 12:47:43

https://www.chronos.ltd.uk/acatalog/info_SVMS.html

Anyone care to comment on the quality of these please, particularly this one from Chronos?

Are the genuine (second hand) Nottingham versions any better? Some of the ones I've seen for sale are in poor shape for a high price which is why I'm looking at the copies.

Edited By mrbuilder on 27/01/2018 12:48:51

Thread: Shimming between the saddle and apron on a Myford ML7.
28/12/2017 09:29:25

Thanks Hopper. Sounds like the same problem I've got here. That all makes sense to me, going to make a shim up tomorrow.

I can only think when the last person rebuilt this machine they didn't replace whatever "shim" was there or just didn't bother to fix.

Good to know this is working for you - I couldn't find any documentation on this being done...

28/12/2017 06:49:29

The short question - has anyone shimmed between their saddle and apron? And do you see any problems with it?

From what I’ve been reading it seems to usually be the opposite problem – apron too low.

The background to this question...

I got a Myford ML7 back recently from a bed regrind and saddle/slides regrind and scrape in. Part of the condition of the reasonable price for this work was that everything was stripped back and only the parts applicable were sent away (i.e. no headstock/apron/leadscrew/rack etc.). Before regrind apart from the tightness near the tailstock was that the leadscrew used to lift up when engaged (never really thought about it till now).

My problem now is that after refitting the apron is that the apron is too high, which means the carriage won’t move when trying to turn the handwheel and the leadscrew still lifts (perhaps always was always too high based on my comment on the previous leadscrew alignment). The other thing I have done was replace the worn rack pinon assembly with a new one.

So the combination of the bed regrind/saddle regrind and scrape in/new rack pinon/how it was previous, means I need to do something to align the apron with the rack and leadscrew. It’s 0.030” from assessing using feeler gauges, this means smooth movement of the carriage and no leadscrew lift.

1) Take 0.030” off the saddle.

2) Raise the rack and leadscrew – doesn’t sound good…

3) Shim between the saddle/apron.

My preference is 3) does this sound like an okay solution? Shimming also looks like the easiest option.

PS Have also tried the standard Myford procedure to set up the alignment of the apron off the leadscrew but this didn’t solve any problems.

Edited By mrbuilder on 28/12/2017 06:54:43

Thread: Tramming in x direction BF-20 Mill.
12/11/2017 05:18:39

Yeah that's basically the same method I use to align the column but use a machinists square instead of an angle plate. And I use a (knock off) "indicol" to attach the DTI. Readings do indeed vary a bit on the way up or down as you've mentioned.

That test doesn't matter if the head is out, and what I'm not understanding about Neil's note about being hard to align the column without aligning the head first.

12/11/2017 02:45:22
Posted by XD 351 on 10/11/2017 07:02:39:

If there are no dowels you should be able to loosen the bolts a little then tap the top of the column across to align it , this is what i had to do with the head of my x2 mill as the head casting is 2 piece and the column tilts - ideally after the alignment is done fit some taper dowels .

Thanks. I was able to get it to under a 0.001" by tapping the column, I also thought of this shortly after and it worked for me.

Posted by XD 351 on 10/11/2017 07:02:39:

Just out of curiosity how did you ascertain that the column is tilted ?

By using a machinists square, but yes of course there are some assumptions made by using this method.

Posted by Neil Wyatt on 10/11/2017 13:33:49:

You can't easily set the column unless the head is aligned first.

How so, I'm not sure I understand this? I've always though of these as separate checks, how does the head out of alignment affect a check on the column?

Posted by Russ B on 10/11/2017 08:11:05:

Sorry if this a bit pushy, but here's what I'd do and indeed what I did on my own BF-20..... it's not a quick fix, but it's a good thing to know.

Thanks heaps for this wealth of information! I am indeed keen to know and I'm going to run through your method / checks once I get a bit more spare time.

Cheers guys.

Edited By mrbuilder on 12/11/2017 02:46:48

09/11/2017 09:46:48

Anyone know how it might be possible to correct the column alignment of my BF-20 mill (in the X direction)?

A bit different to a SIEG which has the bolts at the base where this has the four bolts horizontally. Any ideas?

img_20171109_191215.jpg

Y is easy by shimming, but is okay on mine anyway after checking with a machinists square. X needs work hence the question.

Thread: Collets - worth getting A grade (high/ultra) precision?
28/10/2017 05:21:45

Looking at purchasing a set of ER collets either ER25 or ER32.

Has anyone purchased collets with TIR - 0.01mm vs the standard 0.02mm? And any benefit in doing so for model engineering / home workshop?

Thread: Decorative effect on steel nut
15/09/2017 04:23:14
Posted by Ian S C on 15/09/2017 03:23:08:

When I replaced some missing nuts on some old farm machinery the new nuts looked out of place.

I have to agree with that, the alternative new bright zinc plated nuts didn't look right in my application either...

Thanks everyone for all of the thoughts yes

Edited By mrbuilder on 15/09/2017 04:23:35

14/09/2017 13:21:56
Posted by Ian Phillips on 14/09/2017 12:55:25:

Without an idea of scale its hard to say if its is actually decoration. It looks like a well corroded part that has been cleaned and made shiny.

It's a 3/8 BSF nut. Sorry should've chucked a rule next to it.

The look has kinda grown on me. My original thought was a clean up after corrosion but not really sure. Have five of them, all the same.

Edited By mrbuilder on 14/09/2017 13:23:49

14/09/2017 11:56:18

Can't say I've seen this before, but doesn't anyone know how this decorative effect was created on this nut?

Nut

Thread: Identifying 6" Burnerd Chucks for Myford Lathes.
08/08/2017 12:22:47
Posted by Saxalby on 08/08/2017 12:07:38:

While my 4 jaw is on a Boxford. There is no logo just the type number as in your last photo. That I bought in 1986

Regards Barry

Hmm... That helps and makes sense now that I think of it, perhaps the later type had no logo - I notice most of the new ones from today (not necessarily for Myford) don't seem to have logos.

08/08/2017 11:33:37
I am after a 4 Jaw Independent chuck for my ML7. Does anyone know the history of the Burnerd chucks that were made for the Myford ML7 / Super 7. Some seem to have different logos, no logos etc. I assume it was change over time. Any idea which ones are the later versions? I have read a few post and a bit of info on lathes.co.uk but no real definitive stuff on this.
“Burnerd Model 34M logo” Red and blue logo.
34m.jpg
“Burnerd Catalogue No. 1548-16130 Iron Body” – Green logo.
1548-16130.jpg
No Logo just marked “1548-16130”
1548-16130 - no logo.jpg
Have also seen a few other variants.
Thread: Myford Rear Tool Post "Block"
23/06/2017 14:22:34

Thanks for all of the replies guys, appreciate it.

Undecided whether I'll make one seeing as isn't available separately, just another project to add to the 1001 others!

This thread reinforces the fact I "need" one though yes

21/06/2017 10:35:16

So I can use my spare Dickson tool post at the rear, anyone know where I might be able to purchase one of these blocks (circled in blue)? (Short of making one)...

block.jpg

Photo credit: Swarf, Mostly!

Thread: New Myford Bearings - what work is required?
07/06/2017 04:26:37
Posted by Robbo on 06/06/2017 14:11:15:

Have a look at this previous thread, particularly comments from Blowlamp - **LINK**

Funnily enough that thread contradicts the previous link so I'm now unsure again...

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