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Thread: HBM 250-550 Lathe Tooling
23/07/2023 17:28:03

Hi All for those of you interested in mounting a QCTP type 250-111 there is an excellent youTube

posted by WBR Works "Lathe Rebuild Pt2" from 3:36 to6:18

Regards to all Bernard Start

23/07/2023 10:25:53

Sorry David I'm not sure if I have joined the correct topic.

My comment is directed at your HBM 250-550 lathe.

I see in other videos the 250-111 QCTP fitted to this lathe.

Can you tell me how this is done with the existing post on the HBM top slide?

Regards Bernard

21/07/2023 18:35:11

Very interesting!

I have a AMABL250Fx550 Aka Wiess WBL250F.

I see from the HBM Lathe rebuild Pt 3 YouTube that they have a QCTP 250-111 as does Precision Mathews but there is a boss on my 250 that prevents this.

Any ideas please to circumvent this obstacle?

Bernard

Thread: Back plate dimensions and tolerance
06/05/2023 14:50:41

Not at all Dalboy. Sharing throws more light on the subject.

However, I have just managed to stretch a Mitutoyo 25-50mm to 52.04mm

06/05/2023 13:39:30

Thanks Dalboy, I am belt & braces and my skill with gessing sticks in restricted space and internal diameters is poor.

I like to get measure three times, one independant before cutting.

There seems to be a reluctance to discuss and share actual dimensions. Do you know why?

06/05/2023 11:43:38

Thank you Dalboy, I see from your classic work bench you have lots of experience!

I see you measured it. What was the register measure (5x.xxmm)?

06/05/2023 10:52:00

Thank you Circlip, This machine is just off the production line and has not been used in anger to wear it.

06/05/2023 09:47:24

I wish I had a go - nogo plug gauge or I'll be happy with the dimensions.

05/05/2023 19:20:12

Hi Jason & Mike thank you for your latest posts. Especially Jason's photo.

I have enough ammunition now.

I want the exact dimension of the register so I can make a plug gauge to bore the hole in the new backplate.

I cannot keep stripping down the chuck to test it on the nose!

I find it extreemly funny (and anoying) that this basic dimension is not in the manual.

05/05/2023 19:11:07

Hi Jason & Mike thank you for your latest posts. Especially Jason's photo.

I have enough ammunition now.

I want the exact dimension of the register so I can make a plug gauge to bore the hole in the new backplate.

I cannot keep stripping down the chuck to test it on the nose!

I find it extreemly funny (and anoying) that this basic dimension is not in the manual.

05/05/2023 18:58:57

Hi Niel thank you for your interest.

The lathe is a Weiss WBL250F manufactured 11/2022

The spindle is basic 3 hole and not camloc. The spindle flange is : -

15mm thick

100mm diameter

52mm diameter register boss

8mm register boss hieght

24.5mm spindle bore

3 M8 fixing studs on 75mm PCB

All with my guessing stick

I hope you are unbaffled

05/05/2023 17:15:10

Thanks SOD your solution is on hold for the worst senario even with a BP. In the meantime I try to do the best.

05/05/2023 17:09:13

I am sorry I think I may have caused some confusion here.

The EC32 Collet chuck I have has a 72mm register rebate on rear and cannot be offered to mate with the spindle which has a 52mm boss register. Hence the back plate and the need for accuracy.

I will not be happy with any solution that involves drilling, reaming and pining the spindle face in situ.

05/05/2023 16:22:27

Jason you hit the nail!

05/05/2023 13:41:11

Thank you Mike. I do indeed mean ER32. I should know I own one already. It has spent the last 10 years on my ML7 which is being replaced by a Weiss WBL250F

I just want to put it on my new 250 and need a new FP which I hope to make as good as I can.

05/05/2023 12:35:52

Gentelmen thank you for your interest and help.

The title was FP (Face Plate) for Wiess 250 (Chinese) look-alike Warco WM250.

I am searching for a simple drawing of the spindle face (nose) showing register and stud PCB dimensions with tolerances. The UK dealers Warco and Amadeal have no stock.

This I am sure you know this is so critical to get minimum run out so I do not want to rely on my guessing stick.

04/05/2023 16:32:23

HI I am Bernard Start in Corbridge.

I am preparing to make a backplate for a EC32 collet chuck.

I have measured the spindle face with a caliper and find register 51.96mm and 65.20mm btween 3 studs or 75.20 PCD (Pitch Circle Diameter)

I would apreachiate guidance to more accurate measurments.

I would be happy to share a beer at my expense.

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