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David Taylor05/03/2017 22:33:10
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Posted by julian atkins on 05/03/2017 21:14:47:

Dave's comments are of interest because an ordinary injector will not work if the feed water temperature is over 46 degrees C. The maths and science behind this is in DAG (Derek) Brown's excellent book on miniature injectors, and concurrs with the explanation in my second edition of Pullen's book dated 1900.

If I am running on a very hot day in the UK (very rare) I leave the injector water valves open all the time. The tender or tanks need replenishing far more often, but if a mains supply it will keep the feed water temperature down to well below 46 degrees C.

I doubt our water gets that hot, but our injectors stop working anyway. None of them are lifting injectors, they're all horizontal ones below the footplate so they're also below the level of the tender tank bottom.

We do the same thing leaving the water flowing through the injector the whole time.

Apparently we have a maker of reliable, high quality injectors here in Aus, two of which I have waiting for my NSW mogul. I don't want to try them on my current loco in case they get contaminated somehow!

David Taylor05/03/2017 22:43:49
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Posted by Ron Hancock on 05/03/2017 12:11:32:

Hi Dave thought i would share some shots of my friend Colin and Nancy Cambel from Melbourne Australia such nice wonderful couple with a 2 1\2 mile track in his back garden and runs every weekend.

Hi Ron,

A very impressive setup! Those are very big locos.

My father-in-law goes to a place in Qld where the bloke even makes scale bricks to make the buildings with, scale signals, etc.

Werner Schleidt10/06/2017 20:15:35
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Hallo Ron,

I am Werner from Germany and I had experience using john Cashmores injectors at 3 locomotives without any problem. The day came on a club track the injector failed.

For me it was clear the injector is the problem. The Boiler check valve was OK. At home I tried from my other

locos perfect working injectors and they failed in the same way. At each time the injector want to start suddenly a steam water spray came out of the injector.

I decide to give a try with a silicon pipe with a water valve between in a external test pipe.

The injectors worked all very well. Then I test with the orignal valve from the loco with the silicon testpipe.

And the failure was very clear, if the injector trys to start and failed there were many many very small air bubbles

to see. That was the reason why the injector failed. The water valve wa water tight but not air thight.

I replaced the water valve and the injectors worked very well again.

That is what I learned from practice. And I have later learned to built injectors by my own with many try and error

but the work in the same way as the copied comercial ones.

best regards

Werner

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