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Studs, nuts a couple of Ft/lb and a aircraft crash

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duncan webster20/03/2023 14:13:43
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Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 20/03/2023 11:35:41:

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Is it wise to be flying 46 year old engines? Materials age and components might change in a way a long dead engineer couldn't anticipate!

Dave

Plenty of Merlin still flying, and they must be 70 ish years old. The trick is to not expose them to full load, unlike the wat they seem to operate preserved steam, thrash it up the S&C or Shap to break some record or other.

SillyOldDuffer20/03/2023 16:09:39
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Posted by Clive Steer on 20/03/2023 12:23:17:

I'm not sure I understand how the nut locking feature caused the failure. Most of the self locking nuts I've come across are a conventional nut with a feature on the top that mimics a lock nut such as a nylon, fibre or crushed threaded tube friction feature. These nut would be wound down to the required torque and checked visually to ensure the thread of the stud or bolt had engaged fully with the locking feature.

I wouldn't have thought that the locking feature would need to extend down into the normal load transfer region of the nut and stud. However if the stud was too short to provide a locking feature on top of the nut or by doing so the nut would become thinner reducing the load transfer area.

CS

That's exactly what I thought at first, but the Spiralock diagram shows their female is cut full length with a wedge ramp:

The problem, I think, is what the wedge did to a stud that was already torqued close to maximum. As can be seen the wedge concentrates the tightening force on the tip of the male thread, giving it an extra hard time. Good idea, but a step too far on this engine! I wonder if the Spiralock instructions suggest backing off the torque when these are substituted for conventional nuts. If so does the maintenance engineer go with the new nut guidance or what's in the aircraft manual?

Dave

Mick Dobson20/03/2023 20:35:31
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I found the technical report to very interesting, but since when was torque measured in Ft/lbs?

This is a meaningless unit, since torque is defined as force applied at a standard radius and should of course be written as lbft. For ease of visual interpretation it can sometimes include a dot or dash, such as lb.ft or lb-ft. The lb part can even be expanded to lbf denoting pounds force, so then torque is expressed as lbf.ft.

I think our American cousins write it the other way round, as ft.lbs, but not as the version shown in the report.

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