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Christian Sprogų28/04/2017 08:31:11
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Been around the Sherline , but alas could not find any distribution here in Denmark, but ill look into it again. The cj18a goes down to 50rpm, is that not low enough for threads godt? Have seen/done the threading with dies in the lathe, certanly doable - but i just have a Geelong, that thread cutting Will be in my future projects, and the Weiss + Colchester i have Access to, both can handle the job , so it would be a nice skill to possess. And thats why im reluctant to go for the c0 , simply because my desire to learn the thread cutting Techniques. Allso looked at the Proxxon Range ( i have several other proxxon products, that im Very happy with) but the price here is outrageous.

So ill keep diggin, and sudenly ill just go for something.
SillyOldDuffer28/04/2017 09:42:17
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Posted by Henry Artist on 28/04/2017 08:10:59:

Something else to think about...

Most budget hobby lathes (including the C3/CJ18A, etc.) turn too fast for thread cutting even on their lowest speeds. To cut threads many owners find it easier to use taps and dies held in the tailstock and turn the chuck or workpiece by hand with the power off.

Of course there is always more than one way of doing things and half the fun of learning to use a new machine is finding which methods work best for you. face 1

Henry is correct. When cutting threads on my old mini-lathe I rarely used the motor. Instead, a simple accessory to make is an expanding mandrel that fits temporarily in the spindle so that the lathe can be turned with a hand crank. It makes it much easier to cut threads than twisting the chuck. Don't forget to remove the handle before using the motor though!

Henry made another good point about the C0. I (and others) remarked that it was too small. What we mean is that it's too small for the kind of work we want to do! When choosing a lathe, what you are going to do with it matters. There are a few examples on the forum of disappointed chaps who've bought equipment without realising it had limitations that made it unsuitable for their purposes. A C0 is not suitable for making motorcycle parts, but I think you know that. What you're asking and thinking about buying a lathe is all sensible.

Dave

Christian Sprogų28/04/2017 12:14:17
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I simply cant thank you All enough, youve helped a newbie quite a Lot, with All your answers, and most importanly made me ask myself, the right questions - Whats IT used for? So boiled down, my needs are: A machine that Will teach me the basics of a lathe, including thread cutting. Mainly used for brass, alu maybe mild steel. The odd turning down, say ?= 20mm piece of alu rod, make a nice square end of it, drill a Hole, and cutting off 5mm thick Pieces. Maybe a 10mm rod, turned down as precise as say 7.5mm.

The plot thikens, med think

P.s If any of you gentlemen ever comes to Denmark, i Owe you a beer
Christian Sprogų29/04/2017 17:04:49
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Ahhh,finally hit that Buy Now button - rewiew and a plethora of questions Will be comming Up shortly.
Sam Iveson 104/07/2017 16:13:47
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Posted by Christian Sprog� on 28/04/2017 08:31:11:
The cj18a goes down to 50rpm, is that not low enough for threads godt?

It looks as though I'm a little late to answer your question here however for the benefit of anyone else reading this here goes!

I have a CJ18A lathe that I geared down to increase the torque which is really the big problem I found on the small lathe at low speeds. Even the lightest of cuts seem to quite happily stall the lathe at low RPM. Obviously a smaller diameter thread will pose less of a problem than a larger one.

One of the first things I ever made on the lathe was an expanding mandrel to allow me to attach a hand crank onto the spindle out the rear of the machine. This helped massively when turning a thread into a small relief groove up to a shoulder (because a) the lathe kept stalling and b) when it didn't it kept crashing into the shoulder).

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