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Member postings for Bob Abell 2

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Thread: Can a Drill be a Mill?
15/09/2016 14:53:03

That's why I suggested an outrigger bearing assembly

Bob

15/09/2016 13:07:12

That was clever, Nobby.......Using the Drift space for the nut location!

Bob

15/09/2016 12:34:34

Excellent, Nobby

Did you find that the drill head bearings would have benefitted from an outrigger support?

I realise your drill is quite chunky to start with

Are you using a drawbar?

Thank you for your posting

Bob

14/09/2016 10:51:15

Thank you, Ian

I started my milling experience at the age of 17 years at the beginning of my apprenticeship at a large engineering works

We just milled flats on blocks of steel all day long and was told by the foreman to change the cutter

Out came this giant spanner, about 2 1/2" AF'

Blimey......This nut's tight?

Got a tube on it......Still no joy

Out comes the lump hammer.........Clout! Bang! Heave!......More clouts!.....Bang Bang.....Thud!

At last it came undone!

Little did I know, it was a LH thread and had sheared off!

Needless to say, the air was blue for a time.......and that was my introduction to left hand threads!

Bob

13/09/2016 13:46:05

Many thanks chaps for your feed back

It was just an idea

Had I gone down this route, I would probably have used flycutters anyway

Bob

13/09/2016 13:00:00

Thank you Mike

I`ve just had a look at my drill, which is now 25 years old and with a drill in the chuck, there`s no sign of play in the bearings

An outrigger bearing can easily be fitted

What`s special about a Milling chuck, please?

Bob

13/09/2016 12:30:28

It may seem a daft question, but looking at the cheap end of the market, the Mills do have a close similarity to the humble vertical drill!

I was looking at the stand alone two axis slides which could be incorporated for work holding

If a bracket was mounted of the drill column, an extra bearing could be used to support the spindle

The existing drill chuck could grip a stub shaft, which would run in the column bearing and a second chuck mounted in the end

The question is......Has anyone out there, tried it?

I would say the idea is definitely feasible and very interesting

Bob

Thread: Old Engineer having a look round
02/09/2016 15:20:18

How`s this for a chunky Planner?

As a matter of fact, Craven`s didn`t build this machine, even though it bears a Craven nameplate!

The machine was built by Scheiss and it came from Germany just after WW2 as War Salvage

Bob

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Edited By Bob Abell 2 on 02/09/2016 15:21:59

Edited By Bob Abell 2 on 02/09/2016 15:22:35

02/09/2016 14:44:53

Thank you, Hopper

Pleased you liked the photo`s

Here`s a chunky Craven Boring Mill, I was talking about

This machine was being built, the day I started work there........In August 1953

Wage for 44 hours.......37/6d = £1.42.5p

The factory employed 1250 apprentices at the time.......ie.......Cheap labour

The story goes.....On completion of one`s apprenticeship, no documentation was issued, all we got was.....

"Just tell `em where yer from, Lad"

Bob

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02/09/2016 11:45:23

For interest only and possible amusement, I`ve found an old sketch of the lounge in 1978, showing my Princess of Wales loco on the bookcase

Another reason for scrapping the project, was that other builders were reporting serious wheel slip and can recall Martin Evans offering Sand Boxes as a solution!

Bob

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02/09/2016 11:31:37

Thank you Neil

The main reason why I am on the Forum, came about when I spotted your easy to build Southam Shunter!

I fancy a bit of Ironfighting as a change from wooden boats

I also fancy a loco that didn`t need a boiler

I`ve studied your drawings, spotted a couple of little errors, of no importance really

Don`t like to see dimensions like 14 1/64 ".........And screws like 10BA though

I would use 6BA in general throughout

Now comes the crunch.........I`ve never milled on my Chester DF7VS Lathe and can`t see how a milling slide would fit on.........Even though Chester sell a milling slide that will "Fit any lathe"

Any comments on this, please?

Will the drawings be corrected and become a saleable item, soon?

Regards.......Bob

Here`s my final photo, with the writer on the right

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02/09/2016 06:41:45

image.jpegThanks Clogs

I would have thought many members would have been delighted with a 70 ft test track in their garden?

Just the job for a budding engine driver

Another photo of the BL Tank

Bob

01/09/2016 14:55:20

Found a Britannia picture

This looks about two and a half years into the build.......The lad is son Phil.......He`s now 51

The 70 ft track was in the garden for quite a few years

Getting steam up, used to annoy the lady next door neighbour, because of the smoke

I realise, pictures like this are pretty common on the Forum, but I`m posting for personal reasons mainly

Bob

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01/09/2016 12:43:56

Thank you, Rod and Baz

The EW lathe was a real workhorse at the time

Making 18 cast iron axle boxes from round bar took some doing.....I used to grip a lathe tool across the jaws of a 3-Jaw chuck and fly cut the faces.......Quite dangerous at the time, but it worked

Have I still got the loco's?......They went years ago.....but for a good cause

The tank sale bought a complete camping set up and the Britannia got us a small new caravan several years later

The big wheeler went for a song!.........Martin Evans had made a serious mistake on the cylinder mounting holes and put paid to my enthusiasm

No pictures were taken of this model for some reason, probably because I started with 8mm cine

Britannia pictures to follow......When I can find them

All for one, chaps

Bob

01/09/2016 11:48:45

Found my first loco picture taken in 1968

I can remember wandering into the Bassett Lowke shop on Corporation Street, Manchester and buying the castings in small batches

They were carefree days

Bob

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Edited By Bob Abell 2 on 01/09/2016 11:51:54

01/09/2016 08:43:08

Hello there chaps

I`ve been thinking about introducing myself for some time and at last, I`ve finally got round to sorting out my Password etc......Which happens to be the same as the Model Boat Forum?

The next obstacle, will be the Avatar.......But that can wait for the time being

My name is Bob Abell, Design Engineer in the old days from Craven Bros, Manchester, manufacturers of very chunky machine tools.

Sadly, there are not many of us about these days

At the moment, I`m messing about in boats......The model type......And just about coming to the end, after about 18 years

Previous to that, I did 20 years model aircraft, 15 years live steam and I wasted the rest

Had an ML7 lathe for about 40 years, till I was tempted and dazzled by a modern toy lathe.........Which is ok for model boats etc, but can`t see it being any good for Loco`s?

Have built the Bassett Lowke Tank engine, in the 60`s and LBSC`S Britannia......Both built on an EW Lathe!

Followed by Martin Evans Princess of Wales

In those far off day`s, photographs were a rare commodity, but have got a few somewhere and will post shortly

Think that`ll do for the time being?

Bob

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