Member postings for wayne ollerenshaw

I would be very reluctant at this stage in your knowledge of this lathe and it's potential habits to strip it down just to establish what sort of bearings the spindle runs in. Not only will you disturb any preload setting, without knowing what it should be set back to afterwards, but you run the risk of introducing foreign bodies into the bearings in taking it apart and putting it together.

Does it really matter that much what the bearings are? Spindle speeds are given on the information plate and I would stick to those as a guide to see how the lathe performs before any such invasive surgery.

Thus far I don't think you have cut any metal on it yet.

Brian

Edited By Brian Wood on 22/10/2021 17:54:13

Hi W.olly, welcome over here.🙂

Get the 2HP motor. Have you checked the threads on any of the bolts and measured the lead screw pitch (travel per rev) yet?

You won’t break it if you are careful. It is built like the proverbial brick bog.

Ipswich is a bit far for me, but I expect there are some nearer, who could give you some practical on-site advice- sort out your accessories and get that indexer working.

The better VFDs can be programmed for all manner of things.

Edited to add: Check the type of bearing on the headstock. If it is a plain bearing stick to the 1000rpm limit - well not much more. If a taper roller bearing, the main spindle could go much faster but the gearbox may not like it. It would be a shame to push it too hard.

Edited By not done it yet on 17/10/2021 22:04:10

What gears are on the machine Wayne? The 25, 42,46 and 64 aren't part of the original set but you shoud have a pair of 50's and a pair of 20's.

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Looks like you made a very good buy, Wayne

Try not to find anything broken, though … Spares could be tricky to find.

MichaelG.

She looks like a good solid machine, beautiful gearbox and a good solid bed.

May have been through the wars, but still plenty of fight left in her.

A good clean up will do wonders and she should give many happy hours turning.

At the risk of being nosey, what did she cost ?

As Herr Michael Gilligan suggests above, a photo of the Gewindesschneide Tabelle will mean you do not need to measure anything - the info. on the plate will tell you. Think of it like the label in your trousers - you do not need a tape measure to size them, you just look inside and see FB.

Hi W.olly, welcome over here.🙂

Get the 2HP motor. Have you checked the threads on any of the bolts and measured the lead screw pitch (travel per rev) yet?

You won’t break it if you are careful. It is built like the proverbial brick bog.

Ipswich is a bit far for me, but I expect there are some nearer, who could give you some practical on-site advice- sort out your accessories and get that indexer working.

The better VFDs can be programmed for all manner of things.

Edited to add: Check the type of bearing on the headstock. If it is a plain bearing stick to the 1000rpm limit - well not much more. If a taper roller bearing, the main spindle could go much faster but the gearbox may not like it. It would be a shame to push it too hard.

Edited By not done it yet on 17/10/2021 22:04:10

Well then, Andrew at Suffolk Steam is the man to ask for any other information, the rest of us are floundering about without a lot to go on

Brian

Edited By Brian Wood on 18/10/2021 18:20:34

Google has some information from Suffolk Steam on this particular lathe, It is demonstrated in a video

The nose thread is 60 mm O/D, pitch 5.5 mm with a through bore of 40 mm and 5 MT nose taper. From the size of the bearing housing I would guess at a taper roller bearing support at the chuck end and probably a plain roller bearing at the far end of the spindle

Old Mart recommends a decent quality oil in the headstock. I agree with him and used a semi-synthetic 10W-50 oil made by Morris Lubricants in a recent restoration of a Churchill Cub lathe of 1947 vintage. It seems to like it and runs very well at all speeds.

Brian

There's a little info Here; I've linked to the German English translation via Google
https://forum-zerspanungsbude-net.translate.goog/viewtopic.php?t=21272&_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui,sc

See Also
https://forum-zerspanungsbude-net.translate.goog/viewtopic.php?t=47614&_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui,sc

And Here
https://www-deutsche--digitale--bibliothek-de.translate.goog/item/ODY3L5WC3U7GK7KBLNO7CHE3XMONJ5ZG?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=nui,sc

There may be some archive material available Here
https://www-archiv-sachsen-de.translate.goog/archiv/bestand.jsp?oid=09.08.04&bestandid=31029&syg_id=113361&_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB&_x_tr_pto=nui%2Csc

Good Luck with that lot.

Bill

Hi W.olly, welcome over here.🙂

Get the 2HP motor. Have you checked the threads on any of the bolts and measured the lead screw pitch (travel per rev) yet?

You won’t break it if you are careful. It is built like the proverbial brick bog.

Ipswich is a bit far for me, but I expect there are some nearer, who could give you some practical on-site advice- sort out your accessories and get that indexer working.

The better VFDs can be programmed for all manner of things.

Edited to add: Check the type of bearing on the headstock. If it is a plain bearing stick to the 1000rpm limit - well not much more. If a taper roller bearing, the main spindle could go much faster but the gearbox may not like it. It would be a shame to push it too hard.

Edited By not done it yet on 17/10/2021 22:04:10

Welcome to the forum, Wayne, it certainly is an interesting machine. I would personally choose a 1 hp motor, 0.75Kw and a VFD since its quite old and needs a gentle touch. And keep the maximum rpm below 1400.

Hello Wayne,

This particular lathe is the very one pictured in Tony Griffiths excellent archive website www.lathes.co.uk. Other than confirming it came off a WW2 German warship and having a spindle height of about 7 inches from the bed, he has rather uncharacteristically little do add, except to say the factory produced quality work.

There are no technical details that you can refer to. The view inside the headstock is of a clean machine in good shape.

Enjoy your purchase, it should serve you well

Brian

Hi Wayne,

I assume you have already checked lathes.co?

Thor