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Thread: Amadeal lathes - Any good??
02/01/2021 19:23:53

I get your point...I have a desire for the rebuilt super 7 on the myford website...but they're £3,000 plus chuck and a few other bits...I can see that becoming £4-5,000 quite easily...even £1-1,500 on a used one from Ebay or something could become a money pit...think I need to find a trusted person who is getting rid of one...or wait till I retire...lol...

02/01/2021 17:45:57
Posted by Gazz on 02/01/2021 15:31:08:

I've had a CJ18 for the past 9 years, bought it second hand from someone who bought it new from amadeal a year before that (he used it to make parts for his life size dalek, then sold it on)
Sure i sometimes wish i had a bigger lathe with more features like power cross feed, screw cutting gearbox and all that, but this little lathes done all i needed really.

Things i've had fail / go wrong on it,

About a year after i got it i started having problems with it cutting out, refusing to start etc,
I traced this all to the interlock board (amadeal call's it a filter board) that is in the base of the controller box, this makes you start the lathe by turning the speed knob to zero every time... very very annoying,
It also provides motor braking, and operates the inhibit function on the speed controller, which shuts power to the motor if you disconnect the motor whilst running... which you do when you operate the direction switch (something you shouldn't do on any running lathe anyway)

I was told by a few people that those boards can be a pain, and some needed to replace theirs every year or so!! So i bypassed mine, had to keep it in the lathe tho as it also provides power for the speed readout, so that's all it does on my lathe now.

i can get braking and inhibit functions back using a relay and a resistor, i just need to get round to it.

The high - low gear broke about 5 years ago, i lost low speed, it's a set of plastic gears in the headstock, needing the spindle removing to change, so i lived with only high speed for years,

When i finally bought a replacement set of gears, i got the upgraded metal ones,
And at the same time i bought a pair of angular contact bearings to replace the standard ball bearings that the spindle runs in
I figured as i had to pull the spindle and the bearings to get to the gears, i'd do the bearing upgrade at the same time, i got the bearings from arc euro trade (but watch out as most other parts are not interchangable between the seig and reel bull lathes as i found out recently)

When the lathe was put into storage for a year, the person carrying it from the car tripped and the cross slide leadscrews handle got snapped off, to fix this i needing a new leadscrew... so i ordered one from arc as it was cheaper... but it's not the right one, same thread by different on the area that goes through the bearing block / dial and that.

And i had the motor drive pulley come apart and damage itself, again i bought a replacement from arc as it was cheaper than amadeal, but it was not suitable for my lathe (9.5mm hole with keyway, where as the correct part has a 8.5mm hole and a key that's part of the plastic molding)

I've stripped the lathe down a few times and done some fettling to it, there is a great article on how to do this... using a seig version, but as you are just stripping, cleaning and fettling then adjusting it's relevent to most mini lathes:

Mini Lathe Strip and re-assemble

Hi Gazz...thanks for that comprehensive response...it's certainly given me stuff to consider and take on board...cheers...

02/01/2021 13:04:43
Posted by Stuart Smith 5 on 02/01/2021 12:46:15:

Martin

I have a CJ18a mini lathe from Amadeal (see my earlier post on the 1/7/20).

I did a bit of research online before I bought it on the different ones available. Being a beginner, I didn’t want to spend too much in case I decided it was not for me. At the time it was one of the cheapest and had a better spec than others (for the price).

I have been happy with it and with the service from Amadeal. If you search on this forum you will find a thread from last year from someone who wasn’t happy with the service they received when the ( larger) lathe they had had for 11 months failed. A few people who had had no dealings with Amadeal jumped in to criticise the company, which I thought was unfair.

From my first contact with them before I bought the lathe, I have always got through to them by phone and had a response by email the same day, so even though they are a small setup, I would recommend them.

One thing to bear in mind though if you are thinking of a larger lathe, they don’t include extras like additional chucks or steadies. Warco include these in the price of their larger lathes.

In my view, the Machine Mart lathes are not good value for money.

Stuart

Edited By Stuart Smith 5 on 02/01/2021 12:48:42

Thanks Stuart...thanks for that and I'm reading loads already...they seem to have been about for a while so they look positive...I keep scrolling through Ebay and seeing things that look great but then like you say miss a couple of items...I see what you mean about the accessories with warco but then I can see arc euro and amadeal have starter sets and then Chester hobby have a set with accessories...good job I can drive a spreadsheet...lol...

Thanks again...

Thread: New member from Essex
02/01/2021 12:57:30
Posted by Brian H on 02/01/2021 12:54:52:

Hello Martin and welcome.

Brian

Hi Brian and thanks...

02/01/2021 12:56:18

Hi Howard...many thanks...

So far I've got a couple of David fenner books, a stan Bray book and a harold hall book...all in the workshop practice series and they seem decent on first glance...

My workshop is my detached garage so shouldn't annoy the neighbour's too much but I'm going to be decent with the hours I do...

I'm looking for a local club but I'm blessed in that two of my mates cover the heavier side of lathe and milling work (he worked in power stations) and the other covers lighter end (he's a clock maker) so I've collared them into any visits...

Cheers again and we'll see how my journey goes...

Thread: Amadeal lathes - Any good??
02/01/2021 12:17:15
Posted by Ron Laden on 02/01/2021 11:02:23:

The CJ18 was my first lathe which I bought from Amadeal it was a typical cheap mini lathe, needed some adjusting and setting up but it was reliable and I did some decent work on it. I also did one or two mods to it to make it a bit better. I didn't have problems with it so I didn't test Amadeal,s after sales, I have heard good and bad to be fair.

Thanks Ron...i totally appreciate that I'd be starting at the lower end of the market...and I could spend a million quid on a car that has issues...in my day job I have to manage expectations and like most jobs you earn your money when it goes wrong...I reckon I'll pop in to see Amadeal when safe to do so and see how things are...cheers...

Thread: New member from Essex
01/01/2021 20:21:49
Posted by old mart on 01/01/2021 20:18:46:

Welcome, Martin, you will have to factor in slightly bigger work now, so that in the near future you don't regret getting too small a machine. The space available is an important factor.

Thanks and that's one of my considerations so hopefully my research will prevent that...but then at some point I have to draw a line as my workshop is only so big and I've got a few toys already...now if i had a bigger workshop...lol...

Thread: Amadeal lathes - Any good??
01/01/2021 20:15:53
Posted by Martin of Wick on 01/01/2021 20:05:17:

I had a CJ18 from Amadeal that ran fine but required a fair bit of fettling, but all relatively minor stuff and probably no more than would have been required for similar lathes in that class.

They replaced a 4 Jaw chuck with faulty jaws that I had had for over a year (but not used), so have been content with their support.

Thanks Martin...I've picked up some books and one details the fine tuning most need...still researching but Amadeal are close to me but I've also looked at Warco...Arc Euro...and Chester so far...not forgetting machine mart and axminster...thanks again...

Thread: New member from Essex
01/01/2021 19:28:08

Hi Chris...after no doubt making a lot of dwarf I'm thinking along the lines of pens and chess pieces maybe...nothing too major....at first at least...

01/01/2021 19:02:45

Hi...newbie from Essex...no machining experience but always woodworked for a hobby...looking to get into hobby machining and hopefully going to buy my first lathe springtime...probably got a budget of up to £1500 so I'll be shopping in that end of the market...

Thread: Amadeal lathes - Any good??
01/01/2021 18:55:17

As a newbie I'd be interested in how Tim got on...seeing as I'm in a similar position...

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