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Thread: Buying first lathe
08/07/2020 15:42:33
Posted by Keith Long on 08/07/2020 14:42:08:

Jacob, from what I can see in your pictures that lathe isn't a ML4 or any other sort of true Myford lathe but it looks VERY much like a Drummond "M" Type - the knock off bar along the front is a bit of a give away as I believe they were never fitted to Myford designed lathes but very much a Drummond feature. Where you may be getting confused is that during World War 2 Myford made Drummond M Type lathes under licence at first but later the rights to the design were assigned to Myford by Drummond.

It's very interesting indeed. It was manufactured by Myford in 1948 according to nemeplate.

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08/07/2020 15:31:40
Posted by Roger Whiteley on 08/07/2020 14:49:56:

That's a really nice looking machine, how the **** did anybody manage to break off the spindle nose threads. Clumsy muppet.

I started my small investigation and according to guys from Drummond Io group previous owned bored spindle to 1/2" and most likely in process broke off part of it.

08/07/2020 13:10:39
Posted by Durhambuilder on 01/07/2020 15:36:37:

Jacob, I have absolutely no connection with the seller but if I were you I’d have a good look at the Boxford currently on the Home Workshop site for £750.

Thank you for suggestion but I already bought Myford ML4. Seems to be in good nick apart from damaged (probably broken off) end of spindle.

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28/06/2020 19:32:29

 

Youd bestvtry again. See the thread Neil posted saying a message sent to the seller had your contact details accidentally deleted.

Your help is much appreciated Hopper. It seems that very soon I'll join club of lathe owners thanks to your message.

Regards

Jacob

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Edited By Jacob Brown on 28/06/2020 19:32:47

27/06/2020 02:01:13
Posted by Hopper on 26/06/2020 23:54:37:

Have a look in the classifieds on this site....

Thank you for hint Hopper. I messaged seller, hopefully I wasn't too late.

26/06/2020 19:56:40

I think you were lucky someone else 'won that lathe' I think it had a paint job that gave a much better feeling of the machine than was actually true.

Yeah. I think you're right. For what I learnt from you buying second hand lathe is similar to used car:

-Avoid traders.

-Avoid tarted up ones.

-Make sure is in oryginal setting.

-Make test run or ask someone else to do it for you, otherwise run away.

-Make sure there is no play between parts, barrings and suspicious noises coming out of it.

-Tooling coming with lathe is very important factor as getting it may cost more than lathe itself.

-Don't rush into buying - it's only matter of time before something else will come up.

-Rust is the biggest enemy of machine.

Thank you Barrie and all others one more time

Jacob

23/06/2020 16:27:10

Thank you all for response to my post. To be honest It was first time I experianced so great support from anyone online. I was expecting some advice but your input simply blown my mind. For better or worse lathe in question found already new owner. I must admit you gave me great deal to think about. My mind was focused on old machinery but now I'm not sure anymore what is best approach to get first lathe. For what I gathered I can get in sorted in three ways:

1 - Buying cheapo chinese lathe without aftermarket support (ruled out),

2 - Buying more expensive chinese from long established local dealer with aftermarket support and access to spares'

3 - Spending much more for refubrished by manufacturer machine that's going to outlast me.

One can't expeect succesful venture without adequate financial input. Every other opssibility is less or more gamble depend on buyers ability to exam lathe.

Jacob

22/06/2020 19:53:45
Posted by Peter Hall on 22/06/2020 16:58:05:

The worst case failure seems to be motor which can be replaced as there is no electronic on Myford.

Oh no! It could be a LOT worse than that.

Pete

I meant electrical / electronic side of thing.

22/06/2020 19:43:52
Posted by Peter Hall on 22/06/2020 16:53:04:
Posted by Jacob Brown on 22/06/2020 13:30:10:

Unfortunetaly at this stage I wouldn't have neither knowledne nor tools to measure lethe bed properly. Seller unfortunately appear to be some kind of trader hence I'm unable to get any information as to previous usage etc

Then avoid used machinery. If you have no experience, a warranty will give you peace of mind.

If there is a club close to you, it might be worth your while waiting until lockdown ends and paying them a visit. You could learn a lot from talking directly to lathe users. There is a limit to what you can learn by asking questions on the internet.

Pete

Fully refurbished Myford by manufacturer is off my limits. I'm keen to gamble on second hand though. Unfortunately I don't know anyone with lathe experience to help me out with buying one but thanks to all of your advices I know bit more than I did before.

22/06/2020 15:42:56
Posted by Bazyle on 22/06/2020 13:55:08:

It's relief to know I won't need much more to strat with. Good quality 4 jaw chuck is expensive but over time I should be able to afford one. Thank you for help Bazyle.

22/06/2020 15:37:13
Posted by Steve Neighbour on 22/06/2020 15:04:20:
Posted by Jacob Brown on 22/06/2020 06:44:05:

Hi.

"I want to dive into world of metal turning. I been thinking about staying away from chinese machinery and get old English lathe with good reputation"

So you have assumed that 'chinese machinery' is no good then ?

I know China is able to produce high quality equipment depend on specyfication of order. Problem is more with trend among manufacturers. Nowadays machinery is more user friendly but at cost of electronics and overall overcomplication. Days of making things built to last are sadly long gone by and for that reason I tend to opt rather for old ones.

 

Edited By Jacob Brown on 22/06/2020 15:37:50

22/06/2020 14:18:28
Posted by Niels Abildgaard on 22/06/2020 13:52:29:

As a former Myford owner I would buy a new modern lathe instead.

Have a look at a Sieg C4 from Arceuro as example.

If You buy the Myford there will be constant pressure for telling Yourself and everybody else how good a tradesman You are and that it was deal of the century.

The Sieg thing is more silent,more accurate under load,more wear resistant,bigger hole in spindle ,power cross feed ,(My former Boxford has it and I miss it) and not a lot more expensive.Sell one or two of the grandchildren to cover the 400 exstra £ and enjoy.

Edited By Niels Abildgaard on 22/06/2020 13:53:52

I'm sort of old machinery fan. The worst case failure seems to be motor which can be replaced as there is no electronic on Myford. This machine will serve me lifetime if it turned good purchase. Thank you for advice.

22/06/2020 13:30:10

Thank you so much for great response and advices. Unfortunetaly at this stage I wouldn't have neither knowledne nor tools to measure lethe bed properly. Seller unfortunately appear to be some kind of trader hence I'm unable to get any information as to previous usage etc. It comes with bunch of tools and accesorries. I managed to obtain few more pictures. It's gamble for me as currently I'm walking blind as far as lathes are concerned. I don't like fact that it's been repainted. Hopefully it wasn't to cover any potential extensive weariness. Still can't decide and most likely need to sleep on it.

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22/06/2020 06:44:05

Hi.

I want to dive into world of metal turning. I been thinking about staying away from chinese machinery and get old English lathe with good reputation. Right now i got opportunity to buy Myford ML7. Judging by pictures it seems to be example in reasonable condition, however what bothers me is state of lathe bed from head stock side. It's got a lot of marks and scratches. Would you buy it for 1k? What are your thoughts on it? Don't think me rude for not replying to messages but I won't be online until afternoon. Thank you for help in advance.myford2.jpg

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