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Thread: CO2 - Dumb question |
15/08/2022 12:53:26 |
Posted by Ady1 on 15/08/2022 10:19:20:
The "sides" of this argument don't bother me because If I'm right we're all fkd and if they are right we're all fkd too so why worry There is little point worrying because as individuals, even as the UK, there is little we can do about it that will make any difference. If raised CO2 is a problem then it would need a world wide agreement and solution. however, parts of the World are too busy arguing over who owns / should own pieces of land. |
15/08/2022 12:44:36 |
Posted by Hopper on 15/08/2022 11:16:48:
That is a heck of steep curve for a .0016 per cent increase. Or was it .0141? I was once told to ignore any graph with false origins as they greatly distort the picture. |
15/08/2022 12:41:57 |
Posted by Martin Kyte on 14/08/2022 18:09:06:
Posted by Keith Wyles on 14/08/2022 12:36:45:
There will be a multitude of biological differences between us and the builders of Stonehenge. despite modern technology protecting us from selection pressure we continue to evolve, perhaps even at a faster rate now than previously. I think I may take exception to that statement. As you correctly point out we are technologically buffered from a good deal of selection pressure which is a posh way of saying that bad genes die out fast only with technology that increasingly ceases to be the case. Type 1 diabetes is easily survivable past reproduction age now wereas is was not 100 years ago. Mutation will continue and, with increased pollutants, likely at a higher rate. However the selection pressure for 'better' genotypes is buffered by our technologies. The result is a population more genetically diverse and less able to cope as a whole. This by the way is really not an argument for eugenics but we have to recognise that as a race we are rapidly distancing ourselves from the biology that produced us. We have at this time the technology to alter our genetic code both in the individual and at a more fundemental germ line level which in the first instance would affect just the indiviidual andin the secon all his or her progeny. We have already dominated the process of evolution and the challenge to us and future generations is how do we wisely handle the job ourselves. regards Martin Which bit do you disagree with? Our technologies do protect us from some selection pressures, but not all! |
14/08/2022 12:36:45 |
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 14/08/2022 11:25:12:
Posted by Keith Wyles on 13/08/2022 18:26:47:
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 13/08/2022 13:29:44:
Posted by Keith Wyles on 13/08/2022 13:12:26:
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 13/08/2022 13:00:16:
Posted by Keith Wyles on 13/08/2022 12:24:36:
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Dave It doesn't take that long for change. Variation happens constantly due to mutations, if the selection pressure is there those organisms with beneficial mutations will survive and bring about change. it is noticable in our garden that some plants are better adapted to the present conditions than others. Evolutionary change requires many generations to appear and climate change is moving much faster than that. Evolution can be seen in organisms with short life spans like viruses bacteria and fruit-flies, but animals take a lot longer. A human generation averages about 25 years, which is why there is no significant biological difference between us and the builders of Stonehenge. Of course many lifeforms will survive climate catastrophe, it's just that I would prefer the survivors to be people rather than cockroaches. Dave A change will appear as soon as the mutation occurs, and if it is beneficial those having it are more likely to survive. It only needs one generation for this to happen, but will take longer to spread through a population. |
13/08/2022 18:26:47 |
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 13/08/2022 13:29:44:
Posted by Keith Wyles on 13/08/2022 13:12:26:
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 13/08/2022 13:00:16:
Posted by Keith Wyles on 13/08/2022 12:24:36:
Life is possible because a small proportion of the sun's energy is captured by the plants and microorganisms sitting at the bottom of the food chain. Dave Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 12/08/2022 14:30:35 The Sun's energy doesn't drive all food webs. Life existed before photosynthesis evolved. Although. we are mainly familiar with food webs that rely on photoautotrophs as producers, others rely on chemoautotrophs. Photoautotrophs use light energy to synthesise organic chemicals, chemoautotrophs use chemical energy to do it. Edited By Keith Wyles on 13/08/2022 12:25:33 True, but do chemoautotrophs make much difference to mammals like you and me? 'Chemoautotrophs are commonly found in environments where plants cannot survive, such as at the bottom of the ocean, or in acidic hot springs.' As such they might be the only form of life not effected by climate change - so it's not all bad news!
They do fix CO2 so will have some benefit to us. However, I doubt that they will be the only form of life to survive climate change, many others will be able do as well, or will evolve to do so. Just as we have evolved to live in cooler, or warmer climates as humans. I don't disagree except I didn't say chemoautotrophs would be the only survivors, I remarked that they were not effected. All other plants and animals will be. Not happy with evolution as the answer if it can be avoided:
Dave It doesn't take that long for change. Variation happens constantly due to mutations, if the selection pressure is there those organisms with beneficial mutations will survive and bring about change. it is noticable in our garden that some plants are better adapted to the present conditions than others. |
13/08/2022 13:12:26 |
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 13/08/2022 13:00:16:
Posted by Keith Wyles on 13/08/2022 12:24:36:
Life is possible because a small proportion of the sun's energy is captured by the plants and microorganisms sitting at the bottom of the food chain. Dave Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 12/08/2022 14:30:35 The Sun's energy doesn't drive all food webs. Life existed before photosynthesis evolved. Although. we are mainly familiar with food webs that rely on photoautotrophs as producers, others rely on chemoautotrophs. Photoautotrophs use light energy to synthesise organic chemicals, chemoautotrophs use chemical energy to do it. Edited By Keith Wyles on 13/08/2022 12:25:33 True, but do chemoautotrophs make much difference to mammals like you and me? 'Chemoautotrophs are commonly found in environments where plants cannot survive, such as at the bottom of the ocean, or in acidic hot springs.' As such they might be the only form of life not effected by climate change - so it's not all bad news!
They do fix CO2 so will have some benefit to us. However, I doubt that they will be the only form of life to survive climate change, many others will be able do as well, or will evolve to do so. Just as we have evolved to live in cooler, or warmer climates as humans. |
13/08/2022 12:37:12 |
Posted by Hopper on 13/08/2022 12:04:35:
Posted by Robin on 13/08/2022 10:26:28:
It is in the nature of all creatures to breed and exceed their food supply, you can't expect people not to breed just because you don't like it. ... Which part of my conclusion " So obviously, the solution is a change in emission-producing behaviour, not a change in population numbers" did you not understand? I'm surprised that someone who knows more about climate science than the scientists struggles with such basic reading comprehension.
Edited By Hopper on 13/08/2022 12:05:38 But your own argument is also too simplistic, there are more people living on the planet than it can support. Normally this would not be a problem as nature would reduce the population, lack of food, increase in predators, increase in disease etc. However, we have learnt to overcome these constraints. This has had disasterous consequences for our environment and the other organisms that we share the planet with. ignoring overpopulation ignores the cause of problems. |
13/08/2022 12:24:36 |
Life is possible because a small proportion of the sun's energy is captured by the plants and microorganisms sitting at the bottom of the food chain. Dave Edited By SillyOldDuffer on 12/08/2022 14:30:35 The Sun's energy doesn't drive all food webs. Life existed before photosynthesis evolved. Although. we are mainly familiar with food webs that rely on photoautotrophs as producers, others rely on chemoautotrophs. Photoautotrophs use light energy to synthesise organic chemicals, chemoautotrophs use chemical energy to do it. Edited By Keith Wyles on 13/08/2022 12:25:33 |
11/08/2022 18:05:31 |
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 11/08/2022 14:38:15:
Posted by Keith Wyles on 11/08/2022 13:36:24:
Posted by Hopper on 11/08/2022 11:12:22:
Posted by Keith Wyles on 10/08/2022 17:25:59:
Raised CO2 levels and rising temperatures will not destroy the planet. ... Gee, all those thousands of scientists who did their PhDs in climate science and related fields and then spent decades scientifically examining the problem were wrong. ...
Speaking as a biochemist who doesn't need to use google for this, yes if they think that CO2 will "destroy" the planet they are wrong... Of course they're wrong if one wishes to be pedantic - the planet is a lump of matter that's likely to be here for at least several hundred million years. Not the point though. I don't care about the planet, it's the people who live on it who matter. I suggest there's no practical difference between destroying the planet and destroying the environment. Humans may be incapable of destroying the planet but changing the environment needed to support life as we know it is making rapid progress. Dave
Isn't one of the problems that people care about themselves and not the planet. the 2 are interlinked. The planet, our environment and life in general has always been in a state of flux. Probably the best thing that we could do for the continuation of our species would be to rapidly reduce our numbers, but this is not going to happen. There may be an end in sight for us that no one has seen so far. I doubt that our ancestor cousins foresaw that we would outbreed them, although they to a large extent still exist in our DNA. Possibly in the future our species won't exist, but our DNA, or much of it, might. It is what DNA does, survive. |
11/08/2022 17:48:13 |
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 11/08/2022 14:38:15:
Posted by Keith Wyles on 11/08/2022 13:36:24:
Posted by Hopper on 11/08/2022 11:12:22:
Posted by Keith Wyles on 10/08/2022 17:25:59:
Raised CO2 levels and rising temperatures will not destroy the planet. ... Gee, all those thousands of scientists who did their PhDs in climate science and related fields and then spent decades scientifically examining the problem were wrong. ...
Speaking as a biochemist who doesn't need to use google for this, yes if they think that CO2 will "destroy" the planet they are wrong... Of course they're wrong if one wishes to be pedantic - the planet is a lump of matter that's likely to be here for at least several hundred million years. Not the point though. I don't care about the planet, it's the people who live on it who matter. I suggest there's no practical difference between destroying the planet and destroying the environment. Humans may be incapable of destroying the planet but changing the environment needed to support life as we know it is making rapid progress. Dave
Isn't one of the problems that people care about themselves and not the planet. the 2 are interlinked. The planet, our environment and life in general has always been in a state of flux. Probably the best thing that we could do for the continuation of our species would be to rapidly reduce our numbers, but this is not going to happen. There may be an end in sight for us that no one has seen so far. I doubt that our ancestor cousins foresaw that we would outbreed them, although they to a large extent still exist in our DNA. Possibly in the future our species won't exist, but our DNA, or much of it, might. It is what DNA does, survive. |
11/08/2022 13:36:24 |
Posted by Hopper on 11/08/2022 11:12:22:
Posted by Keith Wyles on 10/08/2022 17:25:59:
Raised CO2 levels and rising temperatures will not destroy the planet. Historically the atmosphere was very different. The evolution of photosynthetic organisms resulted in a huge rise in the oxygen content of the atmosphere. As a result those organisms had to protect themselves from the toxic oxygen. They either evolved to survive in an oxic atmosphere, occupied anoxic niches or died out. Life and the planet will survive, but many organisms will die out. Gee, all those thousands of scientists who did their PhDs in climate science and related fields and then spent decades scientifically examining the problem were wrong. And some guy in his armchair Googling around for a few minutes knows more about it than they do. Who'd a thunk it? Those silly scientists.
Speaking as a biochemist who doesn't need to use google for this, yes if they think that CO2 will "destroy" the planet they are wrong. the planet has changed since its initial creation, as has the life. Life on the planet will change, which might mean the end of human life, but life will continue to evolve and survive as it always has done. The planet will continue to exist.. |
10/08/2022 17:25:59 |
Raised CO2 levels and rising temperatures will not destroy the planet. Historically the atmosphere was very different. The evolution of photosynthetic organisms resulted in a huge rise in the oxygen content of the atmosphere. As a result those organisms had to protect themselves from the toxic oxygen. They either evolved to survive in an oxic atmosphere, occupied anoxic niches or died out. Life and the planet will survive, but many organisms will die out. |
Thread: Water outlet |
10/08/2022 17:12:06 |
You need something like this, designed for the job: |
Thread: CO2 - Dumb question |
10/08/2022 16:58:28 |
Posted by Martin Kyte on 10/08/2022 15:03:33:
OK here is another one, why is water not a gas at room temperature? CO2 is and it is a heavier molecule. regards Martin Water is a polar molecule, you can attract / repel a gentle stream of water from a tap with an electrically charged rod. These charges create hydrogen (weak) bonds between molecules. These explain why ice floats and why water is a liquid rather than a gas, which you might expect at room temp. .
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Thread: Yet another scam |
18/07/2022 13:25:25 |
Also impressed at receiving my new license after 5 days from an online application, 2 of the days wear a weekend. I was surprised that it was so quick.
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Thread: Brand Names |
16/07/2022 17:42:20 |
Years ago I was able to buy and sell a branded product with our name on instead for 1/10 of the branded price. Sometimes you are paying for the brand name.
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Thread: Scribing with verniers |
04/01/2022 13:45:18 |
To keep things square I made a metal marking gauge similar to the woodworking version. |
Thread: Middle of Lidl |
27/12/2021 18:30:30 |
Thanks for sharing Martin |
Thread: A Merry Christmas to All |
25/12/2021 09:10:12 |
Happy Christmas to everyone on here. |
Thread: Can you identify these hand tools? |
23/12/2021 13:47:03 |
Years ago, I removed the handle from one and mounted it. gets used as a mini anvil. Old fashioned flat irons, mounted upside down also make good small anvils. |
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