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Thread: Todays Mystery Objects?
28/11/2018 18:27:54
Posted by Neil Wyatt on 28/11/2018 16:53:11:

If Bloodhound SSC crashes into a cliff because someone made off with the drag chute clip, we know where to point the finger...

Neil

I can't comment on Bloodhound, but have a few stories about the brake 'chute system on Thrust SSC. For starters The ribbon 'chutes needed an export licence - they were retardation 'chutes for a nuclear weapon. Most of the rigging parts cme out of Richrds garage aving been left over from Thrust 2 and they were surplus in '83. We had numerous failures for various reasons. I designed the circuits that fired the explosive squibs used to launch a bolt that pulled the drogue chute out. The squibs were left-over / the same as Thrust 2 and I could not get the mating plugs. I plead the 5th, but if you look at Thrust 2 in the museum in Coventry you will see there are no squib connectors......

Robert G8RPI.

Edited By Robert Atkinson 2 on 28/11/2018 18:30:09

28/11/2018 18:16:35

My reasoning for supply drop parachute is because the "clip" is clearly designed to release cleanly even under load and is also designed for manual release. Multiple attachment holes on one suggests prachute lift lines. If you were chasing a supply can being dragged by the chute this is just the kind of release you would need. It's not heavy enough for any brake chute I've seen. Might have been a drogue 'chute for an ejection but that woud not need the manual quick release.

Robert G8RPI.

27/11/2018 12:10:01

Posted by John Paton 1 on 25/11/2018 17:35:51:

Cargo hooks for nets suspended from helicopters etc? (Looking at the quick release 'snap shackle' and provision for rotation)

Maybe, but I think they are cargo parachute attachments.

Robert G8RPI.

Thread: Close call today.
23/11/2018 07:34:23

The T8 LED replacements have raised safety concerns too. See

**LINK**

While I'd not agree with everything in the report **LINK**

Clearly care should be taken. Labels saying "BALLAST REMOVED LED LAMPS ONLY" would be a good start.

Robert.

Thread: Lead Bearing Solder is Banned
20/11/2018 20:45:58

No issue owning a cutter. If you make slow match I'm sure you are aware of some of the illogical UK firearms laws. For example you cant own a "realistic replica firearm" unless you are a recognised re-enactor film maker or similar. So you can't own a diecast light alloy replica of for examle a "cap and ball" revolver. You can however collect antique firearms and own a real one without any licence or similar conditons. This ebay item is technically illegal

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hawk-Jet-Fighter-Suppressor-Ex-MOD/323344002300?

but as it's for an Aden cannon I guess no one is bothered. More use as a blunt object than a silencer

Robert.

18/11/2018 21:18:17
Posted by Robin on 15/11/2018 00:03:38:
Posted by SillyOldDuffer on 14/11/2018 10:18:35:

With respect Robin, that's not evidence! Big jump from a photo of an interesting survival to 'I don't think lead in landfill is half the problem it is made out to be.' There's plenty of evidence that Lead is poisonous.

I wouldn't suggest lead acetate, the so called Sugar of Lead ,as a sweetener. That's been tried in the past with terrible consequences. I have a pot of it for making slow match, it burns without the hard coal you get with saltpetre.

Anyway, how is the lead in the solder going to poison me? Not by inhalation, I do a lot of soldering and it is always the tin that boils off leaving a pasty lead crust behind. I suppose not washing my hands before eating a sandwich might be my downfall.

I remember some workman showing us a terrible cut across the palm side of his fingers he had got from lead flashing. He had a decorative hankie knotted over it and everyone was muttering about lead poisoning. This was the 1950's and I was already expert on skinned knees, I reckoned it just looked like it needed drying out.

Anyway, I appreciate your concern, I will take more care around the dreaded Plum bum and strongly suggest nobody looks to me for Health and Safety advice.

I hope you have a EPP licence for the lead acetate

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/supplying-explosives-precursors/supplying-explosives-precursors-and-poison

and

https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=136405

Robert.

Thread: Oil container
11/11/2018 16:32:50

Or search ebay for "wash bottle"

Thread: Lead Bearing Solder is Banned
08/11/2018 17:57:33
Posted by Muzzer on 08/11/2018 17:32:43:

Pretty much 100% of automotive and consumer electronics are built using lead free solder today. There are no issues with it unless you would have had problems with leaded solder anyway due to poor process control. If there were issues still, you'd be able to look out of the window right now and see thousands of cars careering to a stop, your phones and computers wouldn't work and you'd have no telly to watch. You probably won't believe me when I tell you that a typical car these days has over 50 microcontrollers in it - and something like an S Class will have "quite a few" more. Think of how many solder joints there will be, all of them lead free....

Thermal cycling certainly isn't an issue with modern solder. The default lead free solder is SAC305, so called because it contains 3% silver and 0.5% copper, the rest is tin. There are enhanced versions such as "Innolot" which are optimised for high temperature operation with extra thermal cycling - I've used this on turbocharger actuators that have to withstand continuous operation at 180C with operation down to -40C, including validation testing alongside std SAC305 parts. No problem with it at all.

AFAIK it's actually illegal to use leaded solder on potable water joints in the UK and has been for some years. That doesn't stop you using it on central heating pipework where it's easier to get a sound joint on large diameter pipes. Illegal if you are a tradesman that is. They won't come and march you away if you are dumb enough to continue using leaded solder in your own house plumbing when there are good alternatives.

Murray

The problem with lead free solder is tin whisker (crystal) growth that causes short circuits. Google it if you want to know more. There are exemptions for the use of leaded solder on high reliability applicatioons these include aerospace some network equipment and automotive. The automotive exemption is good until 2023 but Ive no information of who is or isn't taking advantage of it.

http://www.indium.com/blog/elv-2014-high-lead-pb-in-automotive-electronics-is-good-until-at-least-2023.php

The cynic in me says consumer equipment makers love tin whiskers because they take longer than the warranty period to grow.

Robert.

08/11/2018 17:14:45

I can assure you thet REACH and COSHH DO apply to tradesman and companies. actually to a greater extent. The Aerospace industries are facing a potiential crisis over hexavalent chromium. This is banned but aerospace have been working under a wavier that was not ratified and could be cancelled It expires soon anyway. Hexavalent chromium includes chromic acid which is used in many anti-corrosion surface treatments for light alloys (Alochrom etc). There is no approved alternative for many application and some non-european aircraft manufactures seem to have little interest in approving any alternative.

Robert.

Thread: Is any old copper pipe the 'same'.
07/11/2018 14:25:02

Try a local Airconditioning / refridgeration company. The will probably give a couple of feet of off-cut if you ask nicely.

Getting imperial size may be an issue but you neve know.

Robert G8RPI.

Thread: Electric Traction Engine
30/10/2018 07:32:37

Posted by JasonB on 28/10/2018 16:44:21:

The other thing that makes them want to go straight on is massive grip from the straked rear wheels and a smooth steel strip as the "tyre" at the front. The American engines fair a bit better as they tend to just have a narrow ridge on the front wheels which bites better off road.

When going faster two ribs way be required

tssc rear wheel.jpg

Yes those are the steered wheels at the back.

Thread: Pinkgrip
27/10/2018 16:33:51

+1 for Sikaflex for Kingspan to steel door. It's used to hold commercial vehicle panels and trim together, not just solar panels on. Alternative similar product is Tigerseal.

On safety precautions for PinkGrip v DIY products. It actually the consumer products that are more hazardous than professional ones. The reasoning is that a professional is exposed to the product every working day for years while the consumer might only use it one a week, month or year. Under COSHH and REACH many workplaces ban the use of "consumer" cleaning products.

Robert.

Thread: Fluctuating battery voltage
26/10/2018 12:42:48

Neil,

Rather than a conditioner, if you have a variable DC supply cable of at least 18V (higher is better) with current limit it will do a good job. discharge the batteries. Set the current limit on the supply to 1/20th of the Ah rating of the battery (or 80-90% of the power supply current rating if less) and turn the voltage up maximum. Switch on and connect to battery and leave connected for at least 48h. If voltage is below 14.4 V, set voltage to 13.8V and leave forr another 48h. A lot of battery chargers have high ripple and lead acid batteries do not like this. a good DC supply is much better for them.

Robert G8RPI.

26/10/2018 12:32:29

Hi Sam,
As Andrew says the voltage will vary with charge, discharge and resting. Temperature also has an effect. It sounds like your batteries are fine.
Do you know what voltage your charger switches to trickle at? The initial charging voltage at 6A of 13.7V seems a little low and is probably due to the length / sixe of the cables connecting charger to battery. I'd expect to see at least 14.2V at the battery before it switched to trickle mode. I assume you were not there when it switched.

Robert.

Thread: Nut screws washer and bolts
23/10/2018 12:57:20

Lock washers are not placed under the head of a bolt in a nut and bolt assembly because the shank of the bolt provides additional friction.
Spilt / spring lock washers do add tension as well as friction but put an off-set load on the nut and thread which can be a fatigue issue in high load applications. Star washers are virtually useless in high load applications. They flatten and are just high friction. Both types damage protective coatings /surfaces. There are "Wave" type spring washers that are better with small fasteners. and don't damage the surface.

Critical nut and bolt designs lock the nut to the bolt, either directly or both to the substrate. Really critical ones like aircraft controls have thread locking and a secondary means of preventing the joint coming apart.

Google aircraft thread locking.

Robert.

Thread: Safety Switch/Circuit Design?
23/10/2018 12:23:02

That would be very straight forward to wire up but you would have to press the button every time as well as using the foot switch. The other problem is you could press the switch but not use the lathe leaving it "armed" and then comeback later an start it inadvertently with the foot switch. A cover on the foot switch would be a good start. Maybe even with a door or bar guard you have to lift or push with the toe of you shoe to get your foot under the cover.

Robert G8RPI.

Thread: Storing Machinery In Damp Conditions - Advice Please
23/10/2018 07:30:38

LPS-3

**LINK**

Not cheap (£12 for a 300ml spray can) but very effective.

Robert G8RPI.

Thread: Safety Switch/Circuit Design?
23/10/2018 07:27:36

You did not answer Bazyle's question, is the foot control ON/OFF or a variable speed control?

Also you imply that the power is going to the "potentiometer" I assume this is a manual control knob fir the speed controller and not an actually carrying power to the motor?

Normal arrangement as said is a momentary start/stop button but this does not directly tie into a pedal control. Having to press a start button each time defeats the purpose of a pedal control (other than as a secondary safety function which is not your case). My solution would be to have an "ARM" button. that enables the footswitch for a limited time. Functionally, pressing the arm button would start a time delay (relay) enabling the foot switch. if the foot switch is pressed within the pre-set time the machine runs and the time delay is reset and starts again when you release the foot switch. If you don't press the foot switch (again) within the pre-set time the foot switch is disabled until you press the arm switch again.

The timer could be an electronic circuit made for the job or a general purpose industrial timer like those made by Omron IMO etc. It could even be a microprocessor like a PIC. An "ARMED" light would be a good idea.

Robert G8RPI.

Thread: 3 phase
21/10/2018 19:05:51

A number of people have commented on the inability to use VFC/VSD on equipment with control gear or multiple motors. While it is true that there are difficulties using the variable speed capabilities due to the associated variation in voltage, there is no reason why a converter / drive cannot be left set on 50Hz 100% voltage to provide a 3 phase supply for such machines. You loose the advantage of variable speed but at least get the unit working. Some converters may need a small fixed load for stability but this could be 3 small lights or heater elements.

Robert G8RPI

Thread: Finger trouble
20/10/2018 11:27:21

Having had a couple of cheap ones shear off when using a DeWalt 1/4 hex battery driver I bought a Wera one part no 870/1

http://products.wera.de/en/bits_holders_adaptors_holders_adaptors_connectors_adaptors_870_1.html

You can also get a set https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/040212181/

Robert G8RPI.

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