Here is a list of all the postings david bennett 8 has made in our forums. Click on a thread name to jump to the thread.
Thread: Old rule divisions twelfs etc |
04/10/2021 00:42:54 |
Howard, your instructor had good eyes.Thats about the maximum resolution of a good steel rule (without using a microscope ) dave8 Edited By david bennett 8 on 04/10/2021 00:45:15 |
03/10/2021 05:43:02 |
Posted by Howard Lewis on 02/10/2021 13:17:29:
Jason, As a rule, I use a digital Callliper, or a Micrometer! I assume that was tongue-in -cheek. Very good -but could you use a rule (of the measuring type) to measure that 0.001" ? dave8 Edited By david bennett 8 on 03/10/2021 06:07:50 |
01/10/2021 20:54:23 |
Pease do not ink me with Nicholas Wheeters comments. I had no intention of joining in, or being rude. Dave8 |
01/10/2021 20:23:02 |
Posted by Michael Gilligan on 01/10/2021 07:53:11:
Posted by Michael Gilligan on 30/09/2021 11:32:50:
Unsurprisingly, Dave … A scale divided into 127ths of an inch would be interchangeable with one having 0.2mm divisions
. David … Did you miss this ^^^ post that I made yesterday ? … if so, I commend it to your attention. MichaelG. . P.S. __ I am assuming that your 90/27 should read 90/127 … that was the fraction under discussion. No, I did not miss that post, but that was not what I asked. How woul I turn a piece to 18mm diam. within 0.03mm ? This is about precision. Numbers are precise by definition Rules are not. Dave8 |
01/10/2021 02:31:30 |
These exotic fractional inches may be accurate and precise, but of no practical use to model engineers until they are "translated" into practical measurements such as mm. How would you turn a piece to 90/27" diameter and how would you measure it?
Edited By david bennett 8 on 01/10/2021 02:34:25 Edited By david bennett 8 on 01/10/2021 02:38:08 Edited By david bennett 8 on 01/10/2021 02:50:16 Edited By david bennett 8 on 01/10/2021 02:50:41 |
Thread: Theoretical Taper due to tailstock height misalignment. |
19/07/2021 23:16:47 |
Posted by Ian Johnson 1 on 04/06/2021 23:40:43:
Seems to me that it all depends on where the tool is held. If it is held vertically, 90 degrees to a normal toolpost, such as in a vertical milling attachment on the cross slide, and the tail stock is too high, it will produce a taper just like a tool held normally in the tool post would if the tail stock is skewed left or right. IanJ Ian, here is a version of what you are suggesting, which I posted on another site.**LINK** look towards the end for a post by dave-b (my alias there) Edited By david bennett 8 on 19/07/2021 23:32:55 Edited By david bennett 8 on 19/07/2021 23:45:34 |
Thread: Split cotters |
03/07/2021 16:05:24 |
Derek, a bit of practical advice here **LINK** |
26/06/2021 13:26:50 |
Posted by Michael Gilligan on 26/06/2021 06:01:08:
Posted by david bennett 8 on 26/06/2021 01:24:46:
. What makes you think it was addressed to you? It was a general comment on the thread. . Only the fact that it immediately followed my post. Thanks for the clarification MichaelG. Edited By Michael Gilligan on 26/06/2021 06:24:01 I think you will find my post was timed BEFORE yours. |
26/06/2021 01:50:17 |
Posted by duncan webster on 26/06/2021 00:29:02:
If you draw out what happens if the bar is ever so slightly smaller than the hole, as in reality it must be or it won't go in, you will find that the curved surface of the cotter first contacts the bar at the outer end of the curved profile, so it would appear that the angle at the inner end doesn't matter.
Edited By duncan webster on 26/06/2021 00:38:06 I do not agree. The curved surface will contact both ends of the curved profile at the same time. Then the curve will force the sliding cotter around the bar and into a wedging action at the bottom. |
26/06/2021 01:24:46 |
Posted by Michael Gilligan on 25/06/2021 23:42:24:
Posted by david bennett 8 on 25/06/2021 23:35:41:
There seems to be a bit of overthinking this wedging problem. If you accept that wedging can happen, the only place it can happen is where the clamping action is less than about 7 degrees. Eliminate that and solve the problem. It only needs a few microns of movement to cause wedging on a shallow angle and have no effect on the greater angles. The clearance on the sliding cotter will allow this to happen.
. So, please tell … how does that relate to the discussion that I am having with Martin ? MichaelG. . P.S. __ personally, I would say there is just about the right amount of thinking going on. Edited By Michael Gilligan on 25/06/2021 23:49:55 What makes you think it was addressed to you? It was a general comment on the thread.
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25/06/2021 23:35:41 |
There seems to be a bit of overthinking this wedging problem. If you accept that wedging can happen, the only place it can happen is where the clamping action is less than about 7 degrees. Eliminate that and solve the problem. It only needs a few microns of movement to cause wedging on a shallow angle and have no effect on the greater angles. The clearance on the sliding cotter/clamp bolt will allow this to happen. Edited By david bennett 8 on 25/06/2021 23:39:30 Edited By david bennett 8 on 25/06/2021 23:41:43 |
Thread: Wolf Jahn 6mm Lathe Headstock problem |
09/06/2021 20:31:23 |
Wow ! something new to learn every day. Edited By david bennett 8 on 09/06/2021 20:31:51 |
09/06/2021 02:06:51 |
There is something dramatically wrong with your spindle. The link that MichaelG posted is exactly like yours should be (except for size) There should be double angle opposed bearing at each end of the spindle. Does the taper bearing at the rear on yours slide off? It is tapered the wrong way. Edited By david bennett 8 on 09/06/2021 02:23:54 Edited By david bennett 8 on 09/06/2021 02:24:34 |
Thread: Theoretical Taper due to tailstock height misalignment. |
07/06/2021 20:38:59 |
Posted by Frank Gorse on 07/06/2021 20:18:41:
It was GHT He’s talking about tool height,which is constant along the length unlike tailstock height the effect of which increases but the result must be very similar. Using a 2MT shank as an example,with the tool 10 thou high or low he calculates the error on diameter to be 0.000058” and the hollow in the middle 0.00000135”. which even he describes as ‘insignificant’ And,he tells us,always a hollow,never a barrel shape. (Model Engineers Workshop Manual,p139 ,’the myth of tool height setting’ Edited By Frank Gorse on 07/06/2021 20:21:28 I should have clarified. Of course I meant the height of cut in relation to the centre of rotation of the work. The error is very small as the OP surmised,but the shape of the error is important. I think all of GHT's calculations were based on the centre height being the same at each end. |
07/06/2021 18:22:04 |
Yes, a 10 thou error would not matter much if it was constant along the length. In the case of a high tailstock the height of cut varies along the length, causing non-flat sides. I believe this would matter in a morse taper fitting, but the OP just wanted to visualise the problem. |
07/06/2021 17:26:55 |
Yes, conic sections do come into it. Imagine a perfect cylinder. Now picture cutting a section out of it as would be your travel i.e from half diameter at the headstock end (on centre) to below centre at the other end. When viewed from above, the section will be parabolic. That represents what you have cut. Edited By david bennett 8 on 07/06/2021 17:32:10 Edited By david bennett 8 on 07/06/2021 17:54:55 |
Thread: Pultra 1590 bearings |
30/05/2021 20:20:20 |
Posted by Jon Holmes on 27/05/2021 00:20:59:
Definitely timber in the slots. The slots in the bearings themselves would allow some movement. Not sure the purpose of the wood infill (maybe to quieten any possible resonance from the slotted bearing?) Just for the record, I checked some spare 1750/70 bearings. They also have timber inserts. |
26/05/2021 14:34:26 |
The slots do contain some kind of plastic/ Paxolin? I believe its to allow a limited flexibility to the bearings when shims are adjusted. Edited By david bennett 8 on 26/05/2021 14:38:43 Edited By david bennett 8 on 26/05/2021 14:44:36 |
Thread: Chuck backplate error |
26/01/2021 16:12:01 |
Ah, thanks for clarifying - I couldn't read that before . I was maybe hoping it was the elusive clearance! Dave. |
26/01/2021 15:57:02 |
Hmm, what do you read the 38.453mm dimension as (on the w20 nose) ? Dave. |
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