Member postings for Lee Gosling

I have just looked at a few articles about tangential tooling and would like to thank you for the information,

i will purchase one first to get me on the HSS tooling step, then at a later date i will make a few for the QCTP,

i like the ideas behind it, only one cut "face", no cut reliefs due to the tool angle, so a major weight off my shoulders,

Also due to the "kite" shaped cut face the tool can be adjusted on what i think is the B axis, to provide you with turning and facing abillity on one tool, aiding you in turning to a shoulder,

also the cutting load is on the length of the tool rather than on 10% of the end, not sure if that means much in tooling terms, but it sounds good to me,

I just want to say I know these are not an all in one wonder tool, but a good starter to HSS tooling,

i would like to thank every one for their input

That very good to hear,

I was thinking of HSS tool making as a black art, and/or that I would need to make an awkward jig to get the angles correct, to eleminate rubbing and to give a better finish, but that is good to know, I was thinking that I would burn though twenty blanks before I have anything resembling a tool, let alone anything usable

Thanks for putting me on to Lawrence Sparey, worth more than its weight in gold come "X Factor" time.

Don't worry Siddley, it cracked me up typing it,

I'm a bit of a joker even if it's pointed at me, I'm terrible for practical jokes and lightly winding people up at work, the trouble is people don't know if I'm being serious or not,

thanks again for the information,

I completely see what you mean about the cutting fluid smell, I tried to drill a hole with a blunt drill in my early apprentice days

I was thinking of just using a tin can/brush and a spray bottle for the W/S "turning" fluid and the tap/drill fluid out of the bottle, The brush's i was just going to get a cheap bumper pack and super glue the heels,

I already have a bench grinder, so when i order my QCTP i will get a S/C wheel and a large assortment of HSS blanks to play with,

I am wanting to fit bellows ASAP, but i am unsure of the dovetail size, also i would like to fix them to the carriage with small thumb screw nuts and a small slither of aluminium, so i can easily oil the ways while keeping swarf on the ways to a minimum, which is why i was leaning towards the oiler systems, so i could keep the ways covered until the work area was clean again,

On the subject of cleaning, I also have an old smelly henry hover that i got at a carboot sale, that i was planning on sticking under the desk, so when the spindle stops i could quickly clean the area

Cheers Siddley

Being a Gosling, I hope to take to it like a duck to water.

I have watched a few you tube videos about hss tool making, at first with all the angles for reliefs etc, it looks a bit tricky, but I know once I have my formula for the angles and which order to cut them in, I will be laughing,

But I'm saving that for when I have ordered the Qctp, as I think I might try to use the old tool post as part of the tool making jig, so I can cut multiple tools with the same angles,

I have a total newbie question, I have ordered cutting fluid (tap and drill) also water soluble cutting fluid,

The question is can I use the "tap" fluid if I run out of the water soluble stuff for turning, or are they completely differently designed and it's a big No No!

Thank you for all the replies,

Im glad to hear that they run well after a basic clean up and grease/oil,

I realise I have been taking the wrong approach, im looking at it like when I brought my Chinese motor bike,

I stripped mine, re-greased all the bearings, loctited every bolt, checked/ adjusted aligment of everything I.E wheel spacers for brake alignment, then after about two weeks I stripped the engine to shim the gearbox and clutch bell,

Out the grate the bike would have lasted ten minutes on the English roads, but as she stands she has done me proud for over 18 months.

any way back to the topic

tooling wise I have brought some cheap carbide brazed tools, just as a starter set,a tail stock chuck, dial test indicator and magnetic base/holder, I brought cheap cutting tools as I'm just going to break them,

I plan to change to a Qctp in the future and will buy the best tools I can afford on a monthly basis,

I plan on just buying a few small samples for material, just so I'm 100% sure what I'm machining, most likely some 50-60mm 6061, so I can try multiple exercises from one work piece,

later one when my skills improve I would like to try 304 SS, so I can make a few parts for my dads boat

On a last note cause I'm waffling could someone please guide me to what size dovetail the super C3 uses, so I can order bellows,

Thanks again for all your input, it is very much appreciated

Edit: The predictive text on my iPhone is picking random words again

Edited By Lee Gosling on 22/12/2012 18:34:53

Sorry Siddley

i missed you question,

I was only planning to give the ways a light scrape (as in only removing a slight amount of material)

only to true the ways better, I was under the impression that the ways are terrible,

i was not planning on frosting as I was not going to completely scrape ways to a true level, I was going to use the "pits" in the ways from the factory finish,

I would like to thank you all for such a warm welcome,

The lathe will be with me in the new year, it gives me the Christmas period to sort out a sturdy work bench,

I was planning on measuring the backlash after the assembly rebuild, fit a one shot oiler, then scrape the ways,

i have looked on the net and have seen a lot of references to scraping the ways, but then again this was most likely old threads and china products are getting better all the time ,

I have a few china products at home, so I understand the whole problem with QC and that it is out dated technology, but this does not bother me, because I like to play in the garage, that said with a few modification the china stuff can work quite well,

I am planning to fit the oil system to the lead screw bearing housings and the bed ways, I was thinking of installing it to the spindle bearings at a later date,

An x1 mini mill is on the cards for april, I plan to cnc convert it so I can do some engraving and pcb work,

Once again I want to say thank you to every one,

Hello everyone

Glad to join the forum at last,

i have read a few articles as a guest,

But decided to join today as I have just brought myself an import mini lathe,

I don't have any real machining experience (lathe & mill) due to being electrician,

But I used a lathe for a few project when I was an apprentice and i regularly used press presses,hydro press,tapping arms?? And most other mechanical tools,

Since moving to a much smaller company, I don't have access to any machinery,

I wanted to get into metal working, So I have just brought a sieg super C3, tools to scrape the ways and miscilanious fluids and tools,

Hope fully a nice project for the darker winter nights